Asura a écrit:Quand a-t-il donné cette affirmation? Peu importe en faite, j'en pense que le gus a oublié que le kaioken pouvait aller jusqu'a 20. Ou alors qu'il est très mauvais en estimation. Ou alors suffit d'appliquer ta logique de multiplicateur kaioken au ssj, vu qu’apparemment pour toi un kaioken x10 ça multiplie pas par 10, pourquoi il en serait autrement pour le ssj?
Sur le site Kanzenshuu, il y avait cette interview traduite en anglais mais dans cette même interview Toriyama expliquait effectivement qu'il avait oublié beaucoup de chose de sa propre histoire et que le x10 n'était qu'un "sentiment".
Since Goku was unable to beat Freeza with Kaiō-Ken x20 while Freeza was only using half his power but was then finally able to defeat Freeza as a Super Saiyan, we can infer that Goku as a Super Saiyan must be over 40 times as powerful as he is normally. This rule of Super Saiyan yielding a 50-fold increase in power is also mentioned in Daizenshuu 7′s glossary entry on Super Saiyan, and in its attack dictionary entry for Super Saiyan as well. It also turns up in the first volume of the Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files (where it is said to be “according to one theory”), Dragon Ball: Landmark, and the Super Exciting Guide: Story Volume, which simply reprints Daizenshuu 7′s battle power list. In the entry for “Battle Power” in Daizenshuu 7′s terms glossary, Super Saiyan Goku’s battle power is given as “over 150 million”.
Also in the Super Exciting Guide: Story Volume, Toriyama revealed in an interview that he thought a multiplier of 50 was rather large, and that he had originally drawn it with the sense of being a 10-fold increase in what Goku had been “up until then”. It is unclear how this would put Super Saiyan in relation to Goku’s regular use of Kaiō-Ken x10 to gain a 10-fold increase in power, and the “up until then” bit muddies things further. Since Goku had already multiplied his power 10 and 20 times with the Kaiō-Ken as he fought Freeza, did Toriyama mean that he thought of Super Saiyan as being 10 times stronger than that, meaning it would make Goku overall 100 or 200 times stronger than he normally was? If so, it is hard to make sense of Toriyama saying that a 50-fold increase is too large. If Toriyama meant that it only made Goku 10 times stronger than he was without using Kaiō-Ken, then Super Saiyan Goku is only half as strong as he was when using the Kaiō-Ken x20, at which point he was unable to significantly harm Freeza. Perhaps the answer is that Toriyama is being his usual forgetful self, since he himself admits in the same interview to have forgotten much of Dragon Ball′s story himself, and that we should not take these numbers he throws out too seriously.
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Source : http://www.kanzenshuu.com/battle-power/databook/